The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
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Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer.
The docs say otherwise, but the docs have said otherwise for years.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
The docs say otherwise, but the docs have said otherwise for years.
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Au/alice · 4 hours ago
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Au/alice · 4 hours ago
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
I ran this for about eight months and then went back. Ask me why.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Update for anyone finding this later: the workaround is no longer needed.
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Why not? Genuinely asking -- I have never seen a good answer.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading.
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
The docs say otherwise, but the docs have said otherwise for years.
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
You can, but you probably should not, and here is the failure mode.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Tried it this weekend. Took twenty minutes, most of it reading. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things. The longer version is that this depends entirely on what you are optimising for, and most of the disagreement here is people optimising for different things.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
The docs say otherwise, but the docs have said otherwise for years.
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Every team I have seen do this ended up with two of them anyway.
This matches what we saw, though our numbers were smaller.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
One caveat: that only holds while it fits on a single box.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Worth noting the defaults changed in the last release.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Not to be that person, but this is what the standard library does.
The docs say otherwise, but the docs have said otherwise for years.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
?[deleted] · 4 hours ago
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Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Fair. I think we are describing the same thing from two directions.
It is slower, but it is slower in a way you can actually debug.
I would like this a lot more if the error messages were readable.
Has anyone benchmarked this against the boring option?
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Counterpoint: this works right up until you need two of them.
Mu/modaltest28663 · 4 hours ago
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
Do you have the config somewhere? I want to try the same thing.
The part nobody mentions is what happens on the second deploy.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
Same, except mine kept dying every night at 3am until I read the logs.
Au/alice · 4 hours ago
This is the comment I was going to write, so instead: agreed.